Below in an interesting article saying how the "Freemen" or sovereign citizen movement has become a target of CSIS (Canadian Intelligence) and the ADL. This is no different than what is happening in the United States under the Homeland Security laws. See here for how the FBI memo labels patriots, Truth-seekers as potential 'terrorists.' See here for the 72 types of Americans that are considered “potential terrorists” in official government documents. See here and here for previous posts about phony alternative media websites that are a part of intelligence. These "alternative media" websites actually look for people that are critics of NATO foreign policy, Zionism, Israel, or people that are strong supporters of constitutional rights.
Now, I don't consider myself a part of the "Freemen" movement, you could say that I have explored many anarcho-capitalist, minarchist, and mutualist ideas but I would not consider myself a disciple or true believer in any of those ideologies. Though I would consider myself a Libertarian or a Constitutionalist who believes in the traditional idea of human rights and property rights. This makes me an enemy of the state because these rights have been taken away from North Americans since 2001.
I believe the Canadian and American governments are extremely bloated and overgrown and I think most corporations are too. I think many corporations are exerting an undeniable influence and force on North American politics. This is happening through the large corporations and conglomerates in media, the financial industry, satellite and telecommunications companies, and the defense and security industry. Our governments have been hijacked by organized crime liars, thieves, and charlatans that don't give a damn about the people in their country. Our primary problem in government are the intelligence agencies, and unless anyone is willing to deal with these psychopathic lying scumbags, we aren't going to change anything in our countries.
With views like this, I absolutely know that I am the sort of person that would be on a government watch list, not only because of my belief in the traditional idea of property rights, natural law, natural rights and freedom of speech. But also, and most importantly, because of my belief that Zionism is a large problem in our world today and some of the people involved in it are directly responsible for taking away these sacred rights of ours.
In fact, the article below proves my point. You have to ask yourself why an organization like the ADL, (which incidentally, was funded by a bunch of organized crime thugs, see here, here, here and here for more about the Anti-Defamation League,) would care about some sort of "Freemen" movement.
I can tell you why... it is because they are afraid of people that are near to the truth. Jewish organized crime is running Canada and the United States. The amount of corruption and lies inside your governments is so astounding that it pretty much renders them illegitimate.
The reality is, if you had people come back from the dead from the times of the American and French revolution, they too would be on government watch lists. These people would have been seen as potential terrorists because they were looking to do something about the ruling powers in their countries.
The truth of the matter is, when you look at the United States Consitution and the Bill of Rights, it is not much different than the Canadian Bill of Rights and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Anyone who is adhering to these in a time when they have taken them away from the populace will be seen as a potential "terrorist."
Now read the article below.
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DOUGLAS QUAN / POSTMEDIA NEWS
DECEMBER 30, 2012 03:46 PM
An anti-government movement known as Freeman on the Land has become a “major policing problem” in B.C. and several other provinces, according to a threat assessment by Canada’s spy officials.
The report by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service lists Freeman members among “domestic extremists” who associate with issue-based causes, such as environmentalism, anti-capitalism, anti-globalization and far-right racism.
Its adherents fall on both the left and right wings of the political spectrum, but “at the core” of the movement is the belief that “government operates outside of its legal jurisdiction and therefore Freeman members do not recognize the authority of national, provincial, or municipal laws, policies or regulations,” says the report, titled Canada: Biannual Update on Terrorist and Extremist Threats, which was prepared in April and released under federal access-to-information laws.
“Freeman members now constitute a major policing problem in several provinces and have occasionally engaged in acts of violence against the police,” the report states.
In various videos posted online, supporters of the Freeman movement in Canada — including outspoken advocate Robert Menard — reject any association with violent extremism and insist they are “peaceful and loving.”
Law enforcement officials are not convinced.
A national RCMP spokeswoman said Friday that the force is working with the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police to develop materials for front-line officers to increase their awareness and understanding of the Freeman movement and its followers.
“Individuals associated to this movement are a concern because some followers advocate violence to promote their views and this may involve violence toward police officers,” Sgt. Julie Gagnon said in an email. “There are officer safety concerns when dealing with followers of this movement during routine police interaction.”
Last month, the Anti-Defamation League published a report that described the so-called “sovereign citizen movement” as “one of the most problematic domestic extremist movements in the United States,” attracting mostly middle-aged or older men who are financially stressed, angry at government regulation or who want “something for nothing.”
The report cited the 2010 shooting deaths of two West Memphis, Ark., police officers during a traffic stop. The suspects, a father and son who were later killed in a shootout with police, belonged to the sovereign citizen movement.
Earlier this year, a Nova Scotia jury convicted a man of uttering a threat to kill police officers and for multiple firearms offenses. Court records state that Daren McCormick, a Freeman on the Land follower, told an officer that he could outdraw police and that if a police cruiser ever pulled up in his yard, he’d kill the officers. When police moved to arrest him the following day, they found him with a loaded .44-calibre revolver in a holster strapped to his hip.
McCormick asserted that the doctrines of Freeman on the Land free him from the Criminal Code, including its gun laws, and that he was free to carry a gun even to go grocery shopping, according to the records. He also claimed his right to travel highways without a license or registration.
Last year, RCMP officials in B.C. issued a bulletin to officers urging them to be cautious when dealing with suspected Freemen because of their belief in the right to use force in defense of their land, property and family.
The bulletin said some followers may refer to themselves using the phrase “of the family,” such as “John of the Family Smith,” or claim to be a “Son of God.”
They also may present to officers a document that they believe exempts them from the authority of the police and entitles them to charge fees if they are detained. “Subjects make continued use of nonsensical legal/quasi-legal jargon,” the bulletin said.
Some Canadian judges have expressed frustration with Freemen tying up the court system.
In September, John Rooke, associate chief justice of the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta, issued a scathing ruling against a self-described Freeman, Dennis Larry Meads, for holding up his divorce proceedings by making “bluntly idiotic” arguments.
At one point, court records state, after the judge informed Meads of the basics of family law proceedings, Meads replied that “there are rules above man’s rules, and God’s laws is where your laws originated from.”
The judge characterized the “gurus” behind the Freeman on the Land and similar movements as “nothing more than “con men,” who pitch distorted world views on followers through seminars, books, websites and DVDs.
© Copyright Times Colonist
Now, I don't consider myself a part of the "Freemen" movement, you could say that I have explored many anarcho-capitalist, minarchist, and mutualist ideas but I would not consider myself a disciple or true believer in any of those ideologies. Though I would consider myself a Libertarian or a Constitutionalist who believes in the traditional idea of human rights and property rights. This makes me an enemy of the state because these rights have been taken away from North Americans since 2001.
I believe the Canadian and American governments are extremely bloated and overgrown and I think most corporations are too. I think many corporations are exerting an undeniable influence and force on North American politics. This is happening through the large corporations and conglomerates in media, the financial industry, satellite and telecommunications companies, and the defense and security industry. Our governments have been hijacked by organized crime liars, thieves, and charlatans that don't give a damn about the people in their country. Our primary problem in government are the intelligence agencies, and unless anyone is willing to deal with these psychopathic lying scumbags, we aren't going to change anything in our countries.
With views like this, I absolutely know that I am the sort of person that would be on a government watch list, not only because of my belief in the traditional idea of property rights, natural law, natural rights and freedom of speech. But also, and most importantly, because of my belief that Zionism is a large problem in our world today and some of the people involved in it are directly responsible for taking away these sacred rights of ours.
In fact, the article below proves my point. You have to ask yourself why an organization like the ADL, (which incidentally, was funded by a bunch of organized crime thugs, see here, here, here and here for more about the Anti-Defamation League,) would care about some sort of "Freemen" movement.
I can tell you why... it is because they are afraid of people that are near to the truth. Jewish organized crime is running Canada and the United States. The amount of corruption and lies inside your governments is so astounding that it pretty much renders them illegitimate.
The reality is, if you had people come back from the dead from the times of the American and French revolution, they too would be on government watch lists. These people would have been seen as potential terrorists because they were looking to do something about the ruling powers in their countries.
The truth of the matter is, when you look at the United States Consitution and the Bill of Rights, it is not much different than the Canadian Bill of Rights and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Anyone who is adhering to these in a time when they have taken them away from the populace will be seen as a potential "terrorist."
Now read the article below.
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‘Freeman on the Land’ movement worries CSIS
DOUGLAS QUAN / POSTMEDIA NEWS
DECEMBER 30, 2012 03:46 PM
An anti-government movement known as Freeman on the Land has become a “major policing problem” in B.C. and several other provinces, according to a threat assessment by Canada’s spy officials.
The report by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service lists Freeman members among “domestic extremists” who associate with issue-based causes, such as environmentalism, anti-capitalism, anti-globalization and far-right racism.
Its adherents fall on both the left and right wings of the political spectrum, but “at the core” of the movement is the belief that “government operates outside of its legal jurisdiction and therefore Freeman members do not recognize the authority of national, provincial, or municipal laws, policies or regulations,” says the report, titled Canada: Biannual Update on Terrorist and Extremist Threats, which was prepared in April and released under federal access-to-information laws.
“Freeman members now constitute a major policing problem in several provinces and have occasionally engaged in acts of violence against the police,” the report states.
In various videos posted online, supporters of the Freeman movement in Canada — including outspoken advocate Robert Menard — reject any association with violent extremism and insist they are “peaceful and loving.”
Law enforcement officials are not convinced.
A national RCMP spokeswoman said Friday that the force is working with the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police to develop materials for front-line officers to increase their awareness and understanding of the Freeman movement and its followers.
“Individuals associated to this movement are a concern because some followers advocate violence to promote their views and this may involve violence toward police officers,” Sgt. Julie Gagnon said in an email. “There are officer safety concerns when dealing with followers of this movement during routine police interaction.”
Last month, the Anti-Defamation League published a report that described the so-called “sovereign citizen movement” as “one of the most problematic domestic extremist movements in the United States,” attracting mostly middle-aged or older men who are financially stressed, angry at government regulation or who want “something for nothing.”
The report cited the 2010 shooting deaths of two West Memphis, Ark., police officers during a traffic stop. The suspects, a father and son who were later killed in a shootout with police, belonged to the sovereign citizen movement.
Earlier this year, a Nova Scotia jury convicted a man of uttering a threat to kill police officers and for multiple firearms offenses. Court records state that Daren McCormick, a Freeman on the Land follower, told an officer that he could outdraw police and that if a police cruiser ever pulled up in his yard, he’d kill the officers. When police moved to arrest him the following day, they found him with a loaded .44-calibre revolver in a holster strapped to his hip.
McCormick asserted that the doctrines of Freeman on the Land free him from the Criminal Code, including its gun laws, and that he was free to carry a gun even to go grocery shopping, according to the records. He also claimed his right to travel highways without a license or registration.
Last year, RCMP officials in B.C. issued a bulletin to officers urging them to be cautious when dealing with suspected Freemen because of their belief in the right to use force in defense of their land, property and family.
The bulletin said some followers may refer to themselves using the phrase “of the family,” such as “John of the Family Smith,” or claim to be a “Son of God.”
They also may present to officers a document that they believe exempts them from the authority of the police and entitles them to charge fees if they are detained. “Subjects make continued use of nonsensical legal/quasi-legal jargon,” the bulletin said.
Some Canadian judges have expressed frustration with Freemen tying up the court system.
In September, John Rooke, associate chief justice of the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta, issued a scathing ruling against a self-described Freeman, Dennis Larry Meads, for holding up his divorce proceedings by making “bluntly idiotic” arguments.
At one point, court records state, after the judge informed Meads of the basics of family law proceedings, Meads replied that “there are rules above man’s rules, and God’s laws is where your laws originated from.”
The judge characterized the “gurus” behind the Freeman on the Land and similar movements as “nothing more than “con men,” who pitch distorted world views on followers through seminars, books, websites and DVDs.
© Copyright Times Colonist
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